Curse

BuddyLeeX · Mar 14, 2006, 02:16 AM // 02:16

I mixed 3 silver dye + 1 yellow dye and applied it on all 4 pieces of my female hydromancer armor and it looks very shiny silver....I was very disappointed because I was expecting WHITE.

Ensign · Mar 14, 2006, 03:31 AM // 03:31

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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza

The problem is that those of us, and there are a number of us around, who are experiementing with dye still do not fully understand how the base colour of the armour influences the resulting colour.

I'm not an expert on DirectX but I can give a basic overview of how the dyes are working. Basically each set of armor is a texture that's being shaded by shining a virtual 'light' onto it of a specified color. An armor with a red dye is the base armor with an intense red light shined upon the specific sections of it that are affected by the dye. After that the model has environmental lighting effects processed in which gives you the final appearance of the armor in game.

How they get different effects out of that I'm not sure (again no experience programming DirectX shading). I would assume that the different color dyes affect the properties of the light shading your armor. Dye remover would seem to work as a 'dilution', lowering the intensity of the light and allowing more of the natural color of the armor to show through. Silver and black dyes seemingly strip color information from the textures and affect the ambient lighting.

How dyes mix from there, I really don't know. People have been guessing at it in this thread and I'm sure someone will figure it out eventually. But in any case that's how shading works in games like this one so take it into account in your model. =)

Peace,
-CxE

Elvarg · Mar 14, 2006, 04:16 AM // 04:16

Can someone post instructions on HOW to apply the YSSS combo? I see several possible ways:

1. Put Yellow on (clean)armor, put Silver on (Y)armor, put Silver on (Y,S)armor, put Silver on (Y,S,S)armor
1.1 Put the dyes one by one on the armor but in differnet order than above
2. Mix Yellow with Silver, mix YSmix with Silver, mix YSSmix with silver, apply YSSSmix to armor
3. Combination of 1-2 (like put YSmix on armor, add 2 coats of Silver)

Simply giving the needed dyes is not enough, its like saying you need 2 eggs and 1 pound of flour for a cake, but never mentioning how to bake it.

lg5000 · Mar 14, 2006, 04:28 AM // 04:28

mix silver with yellow, then add another silver, then the last silver.. THEN apply to armor.

Mimi Miyagi · Mar 14, 2006, 04:33 AM // 04:33

Mix all of the dyes together. The order of which ones are mixed doesn't matter. Once you've mixed all of the dyes (y+s+s+s) then apply it to a piece of armor.

FireMountain · Mar 14, 2006, 06:00 AM // 06:00

then you could go silver on silver on silver then yellow

lg5000 · Mar 14, 2006, 06:14 AM // 06:14

No, if you go silver on silver, it'll show up as 2 silver.. so you'd have to mix silver with yellow or yellow with silver first.

William Sunrider · Mar 17, 2006, 03:40 AM // 03:40

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Originally Posted by bowwow

ok..since noone is trying it out for real i decided to give it a go on 15k gladiators > this is 3 silver + 1 dye remover

im happy with it

It should be mentioned, that this dye mix works with 2 SIlvers and 1 remover. And that this WHITE is only in the FIre islands, outside EMber light camp. Anywhere else you get a pale champagne color.

Mournblade · Mar 17, 2006, 04:52 AM // 04:52

For 15k glads armor, I haven't found anything brighter and/or shinier than a simple silver dye...

The 15k ascalon boots on the other hand could use some polishing. :\

Naqser · Mar 21, 2006, 09:17 AM // 09:17

why not try the complete rainbow color scheme like in real life?

but i guess u get brown or some other dirty color, like in real life when u paint

azuresun · Mar 25, 2006, 02:41 PM // 14:41

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Originally Posted by Weazzol

Any Mesmers out there find a nice white'sh combination yet? If so, do you have any pic's?

I did the yellow + 3 silvers on mine that has drok armor (rouge chest & boots, and I think just ench's hands & legs). It made the trim pretty darn close to white, but the main color was just more of a light grey. I'll try to remember to post a couple pics when I get home.

I do not know the recipe for this, but I came across this screen shot online. Unless someone is really good with photoshop, there has to be a way to achieve a pure white on the mesmer enchanter set. I too have tried the Yellow+Silver+Silver+Silver and I get a shimmery light silver, not white.

http://guildwars.gameamp.com/gallery/viewScreenshots/15882.php!return_gallery=35&return_page=1

lg5000 · Mar 25, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05

It's 3 silver + 1 yellow.. but only shows up like that on the 1.5k enchanters.. from various discussions. That's also why the pic shows it as very light yellow.

Sab · Mar 25, 2006, 04:13 PM // 16:13

Just tried that on my Enchanters and it turned out...silvery yellow:

AFAIK, YSSS doesn't work on any mesmer armour (male or female) like it does on monk collector's. I've tried it on a bunch of different suits, the colour in that image is more or less what I got in all the tests. Bad location/lighting? Different video settings? I just want to make white dammit!

thenewa2x · Mar 25, 2006, 05:18 PM // 17:18

I don't understand why GW doesn't release white and make it cost more than black!

Tictac · Mar 25, 2006, 05:33 PM // 17:33

I think that the base color of your armor effects the dyes you put on it. Especially on 15k.

thenewa2x · Mar 25, 2006, 05:34 PM // 17:34

For reference:

On the pyromancer armor I use, silver dye looks as white as white can get.

Eomer Constantine · Apr 06, 2006, 04:46 AM // 04:46

Anyone tried YSSS or Die Remover+SSS on Knight's Armor? (Besides just the boots)

WiLdFiRe111 · Apr 06, 2006, 09:35 AM // 09:35

Anyone got White on Tormentors? I'm dying here!

Tufty · Apr 06, 2006, 02:45 PM // 14:45

It all depends on your base armour colour. If the base colour if your armour is yellow then 3 silvers and a dye remover should work for white. For everyone else the yellow plus 3 silvers has varied results. My platemail dosnt look great as most people think its silver. Ive now changed to the secret formula for pink! I used to think red and silver would do but for best results 1 red 2 purple and a silver looks sweet. Dye your weapons a fetching sky blue and Im the most eye catching butch warrior around (best affect dye carrapace shields)

alen · Apr 06, 2006, 06:25 PM // 18:25

I used silver+ dye remover on my 15k driuds for ranger and it looks fine to me ;-)